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Jerome

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We have been told:

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Today customers are sharing models between ProVisionEA/BPA and Metastorm BPM. The exchange is based on an extensible interface bus that will allow the details required by the respective personas (architect, process analysts, model driven developer) to be stored and passed along, unadulterated, but available to be used as needed. For example, we may capture budgeting data in an organizational model in EA or BPA that has no immediate use in the BPM model. This data will be stored, preserved, and passed back to the EA/BPA tools from the execution platform.
Can anyone show us how this occurs? We would really, really like to see this. As customers are already doing this, it must be available, but we cannot see anything available that could come close. How can you 'open' a Metasatorm BPM procedure in ProVision, for example?

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Of course when you move from a process modelling platform focused on Enterprise Architecture and Process Analysis to a model driven development platform you do add detail to the model but the amount of information re-use is still amazing. It is not only the process model that is shared but organizational structures, information & business data models, resource assignments, etc. Using metadata from the ProVision model there are even user interfaces automatically created and attached to the appropriate steps in the executable process. Once a ProVision model is opened in the BPM platform the model is enriched - integration components are configured for example.

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What integration components are configured?

How is the data model shared?

Can anyone tell me? There must be someone at Metastorm on this forum who can try to answer this?

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I can only presume from the lack of a response that they aren't really integrated at the moment, which isn't a great surprise since Metastorm only bought them a short time ago.

Seems to me if you've chosen e-Work as your process execution environment, you might as well use it for your modelling environment too (unless you do want to capture things unavailable in e-Work).  
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Doogal,

Sorry for the late reply, I do not read this forum regularly. I would be happy to give you a demonstration of this process. Just send me an e-mail.

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We are having demo's from Metastorm of provision at the mo, and it looks really good. We have seen it all the way through to creating a map in the designer and it isn't that bad. You get the map, some static roles, placeholders for forms and that's about it really. But from our point of view thats great to start us of on some prototyping.

You can really see where things are going with it though, when it all comes together with version 9 should be pretty cool.

Definately worth taking a look at it.

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Norman gave us a quick demo at our office when they were here in South Africa a few months ago, and according to me the integration is one way at the moment(or at time of pres), and that is just downwards from EA/BPA level doing an export to Metatsorm BPM.  They probably have done much more work since then.
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Optimism abounds. I am still waiting for some indication that this is true, and not just 'smoke and mirrors'.
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They probably have done much more work since then.

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I realize this is an old thread, but I was curious if there is any new information on how Provision generates any Metastorm BPM code.

We use Metastorm BPM 7.6.3, working on a parallel 9.1 environment.

Provision 6.31 is being introduced into our organization, but I have yet to see a concrete answer as to whether a fully-fleshed Provision model can generate usable code for either BPM system to use.

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You should refer to this post.

Your local Account Executive can get you more details and a demonstration of this process. Feel free to contact me directly if this is difficult.

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It's still the same-old-same-old as far as I am aware.

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