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Jas

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Hi Folks

Just wondering if anyone has / is about or is moving to OT BPM Suite / Cordys and your experience / challenges on moving over?

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Nils

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We are in fact moving to IBM BPM, since it was the overall better product (costs and flexibility being priority). 

Since we are a service provider we are moving our customers as well (first major customer will be finished by the end of the year). 

If you got questions, I can try answering them :)
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Not yet but seeing people talk about it here makes me think maybe we should be. Just in the process of setting up a 9.5 server for migration from 7.6.

You think I'm away to do a whole heap of work for nothing?
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We have not considered moving to Cordys. After redeveloping all our processes to migrate from v7 to v9; and now be given the option to redevelop again to a product that fell off the Gartner's iBPMS quadrant 2 years ago is just not worthwhile.

We are looking at Pega, Appian, K2 and perhaps IBM in the coming few months.
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Pega are certainly one to watch. A good overall philosophy and approach to developing processes. Something to consider is the expansion of the company into Europe and Asia taking up all the skilled resources. Not much left outside of Pega Professional Services and they can be expensive due to rarity.

Appian are V. expensive and getting Professional Services outside of Appian themselves is difficult.

K2 has been around a while and is now a properly matured product. While it will get the job done it is a little lacking in polish.

IBM is a more complex toolkit with a good range of positives. It is designed for high transaction environments and works well under pressure. Professional Services can be expensive as with anything IBM.

Try not to discount Process Suite so easily. Lots going on in the wider Information management space and with AI for intelligent process execution. Not seeing the same level of future investment in the other toolkits.

Of course all this is just personal opinion.
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For us IBM was the best choice of what we have tested, especially pricing was a huge win in comparison to MBPM. Our customers don't have to pay by user but instead pay by load. So it is easy to develop processes which go through the whole company and give the server more power on the way as its needed when more users work simultaneously. 
As for AI support, I think IBMs Watson is pretty potent and it is well integrated (at least in the cloud solutions). 
IBM can be laborious to support on environment-level, the last few updates had some small glitches which had all to be tested by us on demo systems before deploying them to our customers. Also contact people on ibm-side tend to switch often. But until now they all got the job done.

Nonetheless we are still looking at other solutions on the European market, especially for our smaller customers. 
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