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hussaini

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Hi All,

Our client, currently using version 7.6 of Metastorm, is planning to upgrade to latest stable version.

I see that version 9.3.1 was released recently.

I would like to have a suggestion from you all (esp Jerome) as  to which version (among 9.x series) can we migrate/upgrade such that we dont face any issues (known) while using it.

Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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I'm afraid that upgrading itself will cause a huge number of issues. Many things do not work correctly in the migration, and if you use the released version of the file migration tool you will end up with a maintenance nightmare.

You need to plan well, and expect to spend a good month per process for the whole thing. More complex processes will take longer.

Having said that, I believe 9.3.0.1 is the best we have tried to date. I am not sure of 9.3.1 as it has nothing in it we want, and none of the bugs we know of in 9.3.0.1 are fixed. I suspect it is OK, but I have been badly burned by that before now.

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hussaini

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Hi Jerome,

Thanks for the response.

Infact, i very new to this Migration/Upgrading concept. I would like to have a clarity this regard.

1)Is is possible to suffice the client's upgrade request, by installing a fresh version of 9.3.0.1(as adviced) and publish the existing workflows (with few or more modifications to ensure compatibility) into the new system ?

Or

2)Upgrade the existing version to new version by using tools like (Migration Assistant/Upgrade Assistant)? Is it possible?

One more query, if the above both scenarios are possible, which method is feasible and prone to less issues?

Am sorry to post above such queries, i am totally new to this scenario and dont have much information on it.

Thanks in advance.
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You cannot deploy your V7 projects into V9 without, at a minimum, going through the migrator tool.  And as Jerome, others, and personal experiences have indicated, unless its a very simple project, it won't convert into a very good V9 solution.  This, at a minimum, is what will be needed to migrate to V9.

Personally, we have either complete rewritten processes from scratch, or on my biggest system I used the migrator as a "base line" conversion (mostly so I can copy/paste simple stuff without having to retype all of the text), but then I am still in the process of fixing all of the poorly converted items, BOs, SQL and everything else.
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I am still in the process of fixing all of the poorly converted items, BOs, SQL and everything else.


Ain't that the truth, eh?

Personally I love the new 'real' programming aspect of v9, but it is also an important factor. You need to decide how you move forward. I have seen a large number of 'examples' that have been written by C# developers who quite clearly have no idea whatsoever how the product is supposed to work. What they produce is a nightmare in terms of design and maintainability.

In short you also need to to plan how you move forward using what is essentially a new product. Getting lots of C# developers will not cut it, IMO. Our training courses are designed to specifically help in this regard by separating the tasks of process and form design from the actual coding:

http://www.processmapping.com.au/services/training/MetastormBPMVersion9Training.html

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