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Metastorm BPM is to be discontinued. There are many organisations still using version 7, and support for that version is due to expire in May 2016. For all customers using Metastorm BPM, and for version 7 users in particular, there is a need to migrate to a different platform and time is running out.

OpenText have informed us that there are no plans at this point in time to provide a migration tool for either of the Metastorm BPM products to any other platform, not even the Process Suite (Cordys) product that is to be its replacement. The only option is for a manual migration.

As the practitioner of several complex but successful manual Metastorm BPM migrations, Process Mapping is well-placed to offer a valuable insight into the problems that tend to be encountered, and the solutions we have devised. Our experience in this area is unmatched.

Process Mapping will be hosting the 'Metastorm Migration' seminar in Sydney, London, New York and Washington during May. You can read more about the content of the seminar and register for attendance at the links below.

In the seminar we will detail the experiences we have gained from the manual migrations we have conducted and provide real world examples to demonstrate the practical elements of a manual migration. By sharing our experiences we will provide you with the tools to make your migration experience as pain free as possible.

Information and registration here:
Sydney:
http://metastorm-bpm-migration-seminar-sydney.eventbrite.com.au

London:
http://metastorm-bpm-migration-seminar-london.eventbrite.com.au

New York:
http://metastorm-bpm-migration-seminar-new-york.eventbrite.com.au

Washington:
http://metastorm-bpm-migration-seminar-washington.eventbrite.com.au


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Washington event is "currently unavailable".

Will this seminar cover an evaluation of BPM products to replace Metastorm BPM?

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It should be OK now - I had to set up US$ account details. Let me know if it is not ready yet.

Yes, we shall be looking at possible target platforms. An evaluation may be complicated, mainly because almost every use of MBPM concentrates on different fetaures, and MBPM is 'used' in a different way. we shall be looking at the relevant appropriateness of each platform to various typical useages of MBPM, however. I hope that makes sense.

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Interesting, we migrate our last V7 map into a V9 live solution this weekend with extensive manual migration since their tool cannot perform in a decent time frame.
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Yes, we shall be looking at possible target platforms.

We wish to look into other possible providers/solutions due to the apparent future, or lack thereof, of MBPM starting later this year.  Do I interpret the description/comments correctly in that most of the seminar will be on migration approach in general, and only briefly touching on possible alternative vendors?

Any idea when locations within the cities may be available?  They are currently marked TBD.
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Yes, mostly the approach.

We'll get the locations announced when we know the numbers of likely attendees (if there are enough).

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Can anyone point me to any official announcement from OT about this please? (Specifically the de-support of v9)

We have a large estate of MBPM processes and we will need a very long lead-time to migrate to a new platform. Moving from v7 to v9 took us two years and the pain is still a very recent memory. I'm not looking forward to telling my boss or colleagues that we have to do it all again. :(

BTW - Jerome: Your registration link redirects to api.viglink.com which is blocked on our network as being 'malicious'. Can you provide more details on the London seminar on this site please?

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Probably something to do with the subdomain they set up automatically. The direct link is:
http://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/metastorm-bpm-migration-seminar-london-tickets-16135462603

Interstingly, since we wrote the original article based on information supplied by OT, we have been told that these dates have changed, and a 'side-by-side' option will be available. Given some lack of success with s-b-s with v7 and v9, I have my doubts about a v7/v9/Cordys s-b-s solution, to be brutally honest.

https://knowledge.opentext.com/knowledge/cs.dll/Open/29854336

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The message from Steve Thomas (OpenText) is that MBPM (Version 9) support will continue until 2018 and possibly beyond. Support for Metastorm (Version 7.6) will end in May 2016 and it has now been announced, since the announcement of the Metastrom Migration seminar, that support for Merastorm version 7.6.4 will extend to 2018. It is not clear what will be the arrangement for version 7.6.5 to version 7.6.9 or for versions 7.6.1 - 7.6.3

In my opinion the extension for version 7.6.4 is a knee jerk reaction to the announcement of the seminar offering assistance to clients looking to migrate from Metastorm. There is a lack of direction over the Metastorm product and confusion over its support.

It has been clearly stated that there will NOT be a migration tool from either Metastorm or MBPM to Process Suite or Cordys as 'there is no customer demand'. Knowledgeable migration resources are rare so I would advise any customer using any version of Metastorm to begin planning for the inevitable migration early.  
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Why do I hear "... but we [OT] can help via contract basis ...."?  LOL
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Which directly translates as: "We are not going to fund your migration to our chosen (with no customer input) BPM platform this time, you are"...

I still cannot help wondering why OT bought Metastorm or Global 360. They are throwing away both technologies, and it can't have been for the customer base given their treatment since purchase.

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Why do I hear "... but we [OT] can help via contract basis ...."?  LOL

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